Xavier Rivoire: "Wenger has to go"
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Arseblog has some quotes from Xavier Rivoire (French Journalist who has written a biography of Arsene Wenger) taken from something from 'Newstalk'.
The only snippet I have is: “[Arsene’s] the reason Arsenal can’t go further. He has to go” Fairly impactful, coming from Rivoire. I suspect the newspapers will pick up on it throughout the day - I'd be surprised if it doesn't create a few ripples. |
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Post: #2
Aye, sacking Wenger would be the perfect boost for our title challenge.
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Post: #3
He's just another journalist.
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I love how everyone wrote us off completely against Barcelona and now they've knocked us out as expected suddenly we're in a crisis.
Theres lots to play for and i'm convinced we'll win the double this season if Van Persie, Fabregas and our defense stay fit. |
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Post: #5
Myles Palmer, who has written Wenger's biography said this years back...
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Post: #6
Yes, but the only person who's ever paid attention to Myles Palmer is Myles Palmer.
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Given our position in the competitions we're still in, surely one is forced to wait to judge him at the end of the season. Unless one thinks winning the league or better yet the double isn't good enough.
At the moment predicting Wenger's teams will fail is a bit like predicting the stock market will consistently go up. Most years you're right, but on the other hand ... |
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Post: #8
On one hand, I'm fairly happy to see someone as respected as Rivoire voice this view.
On the other, it comes across as a bit daft that he should only vocalise it after the Barca defeat. |
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Post: #9
Strange thing for Rivoire to say, I've always thought of him as massive Wenger fan.
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Post: #10
Asa: rationally would've made more sense after Newcastle eh. Those are the losses that really throw our attitude into question. The two-legged tie against Barcelona was overall quite good from the Wenger perspective, despite our loss.
Ricky: just a gigantic public knee jerk by a fan who's feeling emotional about the result. |
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Post: #11
Heh just referred to the Newcastle result as a loss again.
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Post: #12
It isn't the best time to start a media campaign for Wenger's ouster. It is just one person saying it now but a campaign doesn't have to be coordinated and once this is picked up a number of people may be singing this tune.
Not many people have had the courage to say it yet in the media and the absurdity of the timing apart i am not entirely displeased someone has now, as much as i respect Wenger. I remember how there were calls for Fergusson to be sacked after Man Utd had not won a trophy for 3 years and then they went onto win the title for three years running. If this does cause a few ripples, i can only hope the players pick up a level for a manager most of them claim is like a father figure. They have let him down at times. |
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Post: #13
I fully support Rivoire's call's for Wenger's ouster if only to put the coach under a little bit of pressure. I appreciate the stability our board, owners and management give the team, but at some point we do need to question the manager when his team has been running on the spot for 6 years. We are definitely not moving forward, so it is right to put Wenger under the microscope. I'd rather he stumbles over the finish-line and wins this year's league, but if he fails to win anything in this season of diluted competition, then he should walk the plank.
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Post: #14
I don't quite get how you can say "we are definitely not moving forward" being only 3 points behind United with a game in hand, in the quarters of the FA Cup, having already made it to the final of the Carling Cup and lost out to an incompetent ref in the CL against Barca who faced a much bigger challenge in beating us despite what the press would have you believe. Don't forget we also actually managed to beat them as well as beating Chelsea for the first time in 300 odd games.
Our goalkeeping position has improved 10 fold and our defence has most definitely improved, despite our best defender being out practically the whole season. Wilshere alone has considerably improved our midfield just by ousting Denilson and Rosicky. Also Nasri's meteoric rise in addition to Walcott and RvP's form (granted when fit) have seen us through in situations where we'd likely have struggled if we'd have been reliant on Bendtner or Chamakh. Even without Cesc, RvP, Walcott and Vermaelen for months at a time, usually all at the same time, our subs have done well to keep us in the hunt despite them being at least a few levels below the players they're being asked to replace. Don't buy into all the doom and gloom surrounding the club after recent unfortunate results in which a number of crucial decisions have gone against us in very controversial circumstances. We haven't been given a fair crack at getting results ever since that Everton game and things have been made more dificult than they should be ever since. Granted we do have our problems, such as useless squad players who do nothing to help our team when called upon, I feel this team has definitely improved this season from what they were even if we fail to win anything again. It would be a successful season but it's still improvement. |
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Post: #15(10-03-2011 03:44 PM)Rohit Wrote: It isn't the best time to start a media campaign for Wenger's ouster. It is just one person saying it now but a campaign doesn't have to be coordinated and once this is picked up a number of people may be singing this tune. That probably won't happen here. It could but only a very small percentage. I mean hopefully we win the title this year and it would be stupid to sack him now but at the end of the season if we don't win the league then bye bye. Wenger is not Fergie and it's not a like for like situation. |
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Post: #16
Who would you bring in to make sure the team is happy, that we can retain our good reputation for potential signings? The reason Arsenal is relevant on the greater transfer market is Wenger's magnetism. Without him we'd struggle to recruit at the low wage level we currently offer.
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Post: #17(11-03-2011 07:27 PM)Ivansen Wrote: Who would you bring in to make sure the team is happy, that we can retain our good reputation for potential signings? The reason Arsenal is relevant on the greater transfer market is Wenger's magnetism. Without him we'd struggle to recruit at the low wage level we currently offer. We don't have low wage levels. Blackpool have low wage levels. No one earns more than £10 000 over there so you won't see Ferraris or those top of the range cars. FACT. Get in a manager whose aim is to win at all costs and then we should recruit blue chip players. No one is going to ignore Arsenal when we're a big club. Not the biggest but big. It's not like other clubs don't get in good players. Football is bigger than Wenger. |
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Post: #18
Our wage structure is flat, because we prioritize youth, so the highest calibre players, those who want in the vicinity of £ 200 000, will not be coming to Arsenal. That is, unless we change up completely, but that means less chance of Cesc, Ramsey, Djourou, Van Persie etc.
I don't see how we'd keep Cesc at the club if Wenger was to leave. I don't see how we'd attract anyone at his level to replace him. I agree there will be a time after Wenger, there was a time before, but it will be a sad day when he leaves. And I really hope we won't suffer too badly from it. |
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Post: #19(11-03-2011 07:46 PM)Ivansen Wrote: Our wage structure is flat, because we prioritize youth, so the highest calibre players, those who want in the vicinity of £ 200 000, will not be coming to Arsenal. That is, unless we change up completely, but that means less chance of Cesc, Ramsey, Djourou, Van Persie etc. If we are winning trophies on a regular basis, then, we will continue to attract players of the highest caliber. Also, if we are regularly in Champions League like we are, currently, we can attract players of high quality from sides which are not there or in smaller leagues for the right sum of money. Spurs got Van Der Vaart and Liverpool got Suarez. |
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Post: #20
If wenger is the only thing at Arsenal to attract big players, the man has done nothing but build a personality cult.
Luckily, I don't think that's true. |
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